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  Jehovah’s Witnesses face child sexual-abuse investigation in Australia - Washington Post article

  by defender of truth in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  of the religious and nonreligious groups being investigated, the jehovahs witnesses are exceptional, experts say.. in a converted office in downtown sydney, the organizations doctrines and practices are being parsed by lawyers, victims and journalists, providing rare insight into one of the christian worlds most conservative churches.. .

  the church, which was founded in pennsylvania during the 1870s to promote a 1st-century interpretation of the bible, has emerged as the least able or willing to deal with sexual abuse within its ranks, said anne cossins, an associate law professor at the university of new south wales and an expert in sex crimes who is a consultant for the inquiry.. .

  i find their approach to the issue and victims extraordinarily bizarre almost medieval, she said in an interview.. .

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  defender of truth

  MMXIV--

  www.washingtonpost.com/world/asia_pacific/jehovahs-witnesses-face-child-sex-abuse-investigation-in-australia/2015/08/14/d8a58eda-406e-11e5-9561-4b3dc93e3b9a_story.html

  Room 215 -- I've emailed them and asked them to cover it.

  Data-Dog -- why would the Council be interested? Here's the link if you want to contact them:

  www.warwickdc.gov.uk/info/20595/the_council_warwick_dc/667/contact_us
  
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  Jehovah’s Witnesses face child sexual-abuse investigation in Australia - Washington Post article

  by defender of truth in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  of the religious and nonreligious groups being investigated, the jehovahs witnesses are exceptional, experts say.. in a converted office in downtown sydney, the organizations doctrines and practices are being parsed by lawyers, victims and journalists, providing rare insight into one of the christian worlds most conservative churches.. .

  the church, which was founded in pennsylvania during the 1870s to promote a 1st-century interpretation of the bible, has emerged as the least able or willing to deal with sexual abuse within its ranks, said anne cossins, an associate law professor at the university of new south wales and an expert in sex crimes who is a consultant for the inquiry.. .

  i find their approach to the issue and victims extraordinarily bizarre almost medieval, she said in an interview.. .

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  defender of truth

  Of the religious and ­nonreligious groups being investigated, the Jehovah’s Witnesses are exceptional, experts say.
  

  In a converted office in downtown Sydney, the organization’s doctrines and practices are being parsed by lawyers, victims and journalists, providing rare insight into one of the Christian world’s most conservative churches.
  

  The church, which was founded in Pennsylvania during the 1870s to promote a 1st-century interpretation of the Bible, has emerged as the least able or willing to deal with sexual abuse within its ranks, said Anne Cossins, an associate law professor at the University of New South Wales and an expert in sex crimes who is a consultant for the inquiry.

  
  

  “I find their approach to the issue and victims extraordinarily bizarre — almost medieval,” she said in an interview.

  
  Washington Post article
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  New Inactive One Saying Hello to all

  by Lostwun in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  lostwun here, i joined 2 months ago but am now just finding the courage after doing more research to formally introduce myself to the board and embrace my new beginnings as an ex-jw.

  i am a second-generation jw.

  i grew up with parents who are well known and very respected in many circuits.

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  defender of truth

  had doubts about the organization for awhile but those doubts really came to a head last year when i saw..the constant stress of gaining titles within the organization and reporting time. If you didn't hold a title of reg pioneer/ms/ elder than basically you are nothing and that type of thinking never sat well with me.
  

  I hear ya. This really got on my nerves at the time as well.

  http://jwvictims.org/2014/11/15/jehovahs-witnesses-telling-women-to-only-marry/

  Don't give up on your husband, you love him and he may wake up one day.

  It took Jgnat 12 years until her husband left the 'truth', but she managed to help him find his true self..

  www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/271843/hubbys-exited
  
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  Geoffrey Jackson: "That would be presumptuous of us"...

  by Calebs Airplane in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  within the first few minutes, mr. stewart asked geoffrey jackson if the members of the governing body consider themselves to be god's spokesperson on earth.. his response: "that would be presumptuous of us" (implying that they don't consider themselves to be god's sole channel of communication).. to me, that was the worst lie of about 26 lies he's told during this hearing.

  however, mr. stewart missed an opportunity to call out mr. jackson on this bold-faced lie.

  he should have asked him to explain why the watchtower magazine teaches otherwise.

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  When will Geoffrey get questioned again? It doesn't say in the RC website
  

  Great question!!

  Can you email them and ask?

  I had presumed they could not do that.. Besides, he won't be in the country forever.
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  Geoffrey Jackson's Amnesia at the Royal Commission!

  by The Searcher in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  at 20:00 - 21:30 in his testimony, mr. geoffrey jackson - in answer to mr. stewart's question about the governing body claiming to be god's spokespersons - claimed that it would be presumptuous of them to say that they were the only spokespersons which god was using.

  mr. jackson doesn't seem to know what he and his fellow g.b.

  members - and the providers of his lifestyle, the wtbts - actually teach as "bible truth.

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  defender of truth

  Tried to say this on another thread but no one listened..

  GJ is saying, without answering fully which is theocratic warfare: ''all Jehovah's witnesses are spokesmen, not just us". (All JW's preach and teach and are supposedly Gods spokesmen or messengers).

  Obviously, he knows what Stewart means, but he is answering the question that was asked.

  Asking if the governing body are Gods only 'Spokesmen', without elaborating on exactly what he meant, was too much of a vague question, in my (quite possibly wrong) opinion.

  Either that was deliberate, to allow Jackson to give that particular answer for some reason, or Mr.Stewart dropped the ball there.. (made a mistake).

  "Do you view yourselves as God's only channel of communication on earth today?" ..may have been a better question.

  Then, maybe:
  

  "Do all who want to either be baptised as one of Jehovah's Witnesses; or remain as one of Jehovah's Witnesses (once baptised) and not face a charge of apostasy and being shunned, hold the same view, that you are God's channel of communication on earth today ?"

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  "If a Jehovah's Witness today is being intentionally disobedient to any directions coming from the Governing Body, is that tantamount to disobeying God himself, according to Jehovah's Witness beliefs as laid out in various publications?" .. That's a rough outline that could have been asked.

  What do you think?
  
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  Great commentary on day 7

  by barry in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  www.youtube.com/watch?v=1l5hupb8lqm

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  AFRIKANMAN, thanks for that summary, I think you may want to post that as a new topic so nobody misses it.. ;)
  
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  I believe that the greater percentage of JWs-You Will Not Be Able to Help, no Matter What Facts You Show Them.

  by John Aquila in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  so i ran into this brother whom ive known for a while and the conversation led into me being invited to come back to the kingdom hall.

  we talked for about an hour during which time i explained to him 607 being the wrong date and a lot of other stuff including the child abuse cases in australia.

  but what i wanted to relate was the last few minutes of our conversation.

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  And if the end doesn’t come in my time and I die, how do you think I will feel if the last few moments of my life I see my wife and children and Know in my heart that I will see them again. Do you know the comfort that I will feel on my death bed knowing this? Or if I see one of my children or my wife dying before my eyes, do you even understand the comfort that I will have knowing that I will see them again.
  

  All I can think is this:

  Ask him why it is only by serving within this particular organisation that he can have any reason to believe in an afterlife?...

  Because Jehovah won't resurrect him or his family if he doesn't serve the org?

  What leads him to believe that a loving God would only reward with everlasting life.. those that preach false doctrines and are willing to cut their own family members out of their lives completely?

  Especially for something they may not even personally believe in? (Hardly anyone, perhaps even nobody, would believe overlapping generations etc. if it wasn't in a Watchtower)

  Would not a loving God reward those who live with personal integrity and honestly held beliefs that are based on the overwhelming evidence, rather than mindless drones that would support a false religious belief system just because they like some parts of it and want to live forever?

  How would an all knowing God who supposedly requires worship in truth, and to love your neighbour (fellow man) and Him above ALL other things feel about such people?
  
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  Could the Independent Inquiry in England and Wales expose jw.org's child abuse failures? And how can we help?

  by defender of truth in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  with all the talk about the org's policies and failures regarding child sexual abuse being publically exposed in australia, i thought that it may be a good time to highlight this... i apologise if this has already been discussed, but on the 9th of july the independent inquiry into child sexual abuse in england and wales was opened.

  here is some information regarding it's aims.. "about the inquiry.

  the inquiry offers an unprecedented opportunity to examine the extent to which institutions and organisations in england and wales have taken seriously their responsibility to protect children.. the inquiry will investigate a wide range of institutions including:.

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  defender of truth

  Or you can email the Inquiry with information or any questions you have...

  Email us:

  contact@csa-inquiry.independent.gov.uk
  
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  Geoffrey Jackson: "That would be presumptuous of us"...

  by Calebs Airplane in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  within the first few minutes, mr. stewart asked geoffrey jackson if the members of the governing body consider themselves to be god's spokesperson on earth.. his response: "that would be presumptuous of us" (implying that they don't consider themselves to be god's sole channel of communication).. to me, that was the worst lie of about 26 lies he's told during this hearing.

  however, mr. stewart missed an opportunity to call out mr. jackson on this bold-faced lie.

  he should have asked him to explain why the watchtower magazine teaches otherwise.

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  defender of truth

  Or simply ask:

  "do you (Governing Body) view yourselves as Gods only channel of communication on earth today? "

  Possibly also:

  "And do Jehovah's Witnesses have to agree that you are the only channel of communication, or else they will be shunned?"

  I don't understand why Mr.Stewart phrased the question in the only way that would allow Jackson to give a misleading answer?
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  Geoffrey Jackson: "That would be presumptuous of us"...

  by Calebs Airplane in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  within the first few minutes, mr. stewart asked geoffrey jackson if the members of the governing body consider themselves to be god's spokesperson on earth.. his response: "that would be presumptuous of us" (implying that they don't consider themselves to be god's sole channel of communication).. to me, that was the worst lie of about 26 lies he's told during this hearing.

  however, mr. stewart missed an opportunity to call out mr. jackson on this bold-faced lie.

  he should have asked him to explain why the watchtower magazine teaches otherwise.

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  defender of truth

  No, it was the truth. All JW's are seen as spokesmen, or prophets, for God.

  Theocratic warfare at its finest..

  Stewart should ask him:

  "Do the Governing Body teach that they are the only people on earth today who can decide the correct and truthful way to interpret the Bible..? and that they alone have the authority from the true God to do so..?

  And would a JW be shunned for openly disagreeing with one of your teachings or interpretations, as published in the Watchtower magazine and also through letters from the Governing Body, if they did not respond to 'correction' , as in remaining silent?"

  Please can someone email the RC??

  We need to get GJ back in and ask these questions..!